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Bookkeeping that does itself

A simple QuickBooks or Xero replacement that keeps the books, expenses, payroll and tax filings running quietly with little manual work.

18asks, each re-read
17separate threads
12of 19 years
1since 2024
2009first asked

Asks per year

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What the askers want

  • Would pay11%
  • Want it local or private0%
  • Object to subscriptions6%
  • Want it open source or self-hosted0%
  • Want AI to do it6%

Share of the 18 asks that say so, as judged by Jev.

What exists on Show HN

Built, still asked for29 Show HN launches do this job, and 21 more do part of it. People still ask, so the launches are missed, unknown, or not what they want. Ask what they’re missing before you build.

Instead of: QuickBooks, Xero, Gusto

The idea, as matched

A simple, modern bookkeeping and accounting tool for small companies and freelancers (QuickBooks or Xero replacement) that automates expenses, invoicing, payroll and tax filings with little manual work.

Jev first matched 20 requests to this idea; a second reader kept 18 of 20.

Every ask, newest first

Each line is an AI paraphrase of what the writer wanted. The link goes to their own words on Hacker News.

Reader’s note. Several want only cheap payroll; QuickBooks price rises drive asks.

  1. Sep 2024Wants bookkeeping software with a chat interface that asks about transactions and codes them to the right accounts. Read it: a post: “Bookkeeping Through Natural Language Interface”
  2. May 2023Wants a cheaper QuickBooks alternative after a Freshbooks price rise and removed multi-currency reports. Read it: a comment in “An open-source alternative to QuickBooks”
  3. Dec 2022Wants accounting software suited to doing business in Brazil after QuickBooks Online leaves. Read it: a post: “Ask HN: Accounting Software in Brazil?”
  4. Jul 2021Wants a better accounting and tax package than QuickBooks Self-Employed, which mishandles invoices, tax payments and time tracking. Read it: a comment in “Intuit to share payroll data from 1.4M small businesses with Equifax”
  5. May 2020Wants someone to build a Xero replacement and would pay for it. Read it: a comment in “A Case Study of Complex Table Design”
  6. Jul 2019Wants a quiet, accurate tax filing and bookkeeping service as hands-off as Gusto's payroll, without monthly manual classification. Read it: a comment in “Payroll startup Gusto raises $200M”
  7. Jul 2019Wants accounting and taxes handled as invisibly as Stripe and Gusto handle payments and payroll. Read it: a comment in “Payroll startup Gusto raises $200M”
  8. Sep 2017Wants cheaper payroll for a one-person LLC than the $60 monthly big providers charge. Read it: a comment in “Ask HN: How do you manage your single-member LLC for consulting?”
  9. Mar 2017Wants payroll that automatically pays founders, contractors and employees monthly and files all required tax paperwork. Read it: a post: “Ask HN: What do you use for Payroll?”
  10. Sep 2016Wants payroll cheaper than Gusto's $45 monthly price for a one-person C-Corp. Read it: a post: “Ask HN: Alternatives to Gusto for someone self-employed”
  11. Apr 2014Wants a good alternative to QuickBooks. Read it: a comment in “TurboTax maker spending millions to kill simplified IRS tax filing”
  12. Mar 2014Wants a web accounting app for personal LLC books that is less clunky than QuickBooks, like Harvest. Read it: a post: “Ask HN: What's the Harvest for accounting?”
  13. Dec 2011Wants a friendlier, better-designed QuickBooks alternative for accounting and customer contacts. Read it: a post: “Alternative to Quickbooks for accounting & customer contacts”
  14. Mar 2011Wants a service that reads PayPal data and sorts it into expense categories, like Mint for business. Read it: a post: “Ask HN: How do you track business expenses?”
  15. Mar 2011Wants a trustworthy, secure online accounting service to replace spreadsheets for billing and finances. Read it: a post: “What is your preferred online accounting software?”
  16. Jul 2010Wants software comparable to QuickBooks for a small startup's internal finances. Read it: a post: “Recommendations on startup financing website/software”
  17. Jun 2010Wants a fast, low-cost web accounting system for small business after QuickBooks Online outages and clunky interface. Read it: a post: “Quickbooks Online down for hours, anyone know of a decent alternative?”
  18. Jun 2009Is still looking for finance and invoicing tools for a startup, unhappy with the current mix of tools. Read it: a comment in “Ask HN: What web/desktop apps do you use to manage your startup?”

Building this?

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